Saturday, July 12, 2008

Stubble Is Great!!

WOMEN DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT!!!

This simple fact explains the existence of the whole 'seduction community' (a ridiculous title I hate). Every woman in my life told me the same thing - stubble is unattractive - shave, shave, shave. Use a frickin tweezers if necessary. But then... why do men have beards in the first place? If women ACTUALLY preferred babyfaces, even a tinsy-weensy bit, then babyfaces had a genetic advantage over beardys. Over time babyface genes would predominate, right?

You're right Sebastian, frickin right. So why do my genes have a gameplan far removed from the opinions of the women in my life? My genes desperately, desperately want me to have a beard. They lodge an objection, in unison, every morning. Hmmmm... Could it be, COULD IT POSSIBLY BE?!!!!?, that girls prefer beards, or at least stubble (an indicator of beard-growing potential).

Yes, it turns out - nature knows best. The Telegraph headline shouts it: WOMEN PREFER MEN WITH STUBBLE FOR LOVE, SEX AND MARRIAGE.

Women participating in the research rated men with stubble as tough, mature, aggressive, dominant and masculine - and as the best romantic partners, either for a fling or a long-term relationships.


Facial hair may have been sexually selected by females on the basis of associated male success, despite its threatening appearance. Clean-shaven faces therefore may suggest appeasement, as well as being an obvious sign of sexual immaturity.


STOP! Ponder the words. Let them sink in. For beardy's/stubblers: tough, mature, aggressive, dominant, masculine, success. Now, contemplate the words affixed to babyfaces: appeasement, sexual immaturity.

What women say they want and what they respond to in the real world are completely different things. Grasp this and you've grasped a great deal. Go to sleep, we'll talk again soon.

9 comments:

Interested Bystander said...

Not so sure about that. As with most things, it would probably come down to personal preference but my GF for one loudly complains when I don't shave (cleanly). And I can't fault her, I know it feels bad on your skin...

BTW, I'm very interested in this experiment. Would you care to post something about your background? Maybe age, field of work/education and whether you would consider yourself to be social phobic in general?

podunk said...

A strong jawline is an indicator of testosterone. If you want to show some stubble, it might be a good idea to, at least, shave from your neck to your jawline, to accentuate it. Consider it the male equivalent of smearing red berry juice on the lips.

(No warranty for the usefulness of this technique expressed or implied.)

Anonymous said...

This is a pretty bad abuse of the evolutionary argument. There is a lot of heterogeneity in traits and preferences. Saying that women prefer stubble is unjustifiably generalizing what may be just one out of many evolutionary strategies.

Sebastian Flyte said...

Interested bystander:

That's been my experience. Most girls complain if you suddenly go from babyface to stubble. But she got used to it. If you do something with enough authority, vision and confidence, women will just go along with it. Perhaps you came at it from a weaker frame, seeking her approval (how does this look? do you like it? etc) rather than just doing it and then forgetting about it.

Age 23. Education: too much. Social phobic: definitely. But not anymore, I'm still in the process of changing my personality.

Nice to hear from you man, have a great day!

podunk

Great point! 'male equivalent of smearing red berry juice on the lips' I love it!

Anonymous

I tried not to labor the evolutionary argument. But if selection pressures were strong enough, beards would be weeded out. Beard growing is a far more labored process in Asian males, for example.

Interested Bystander said...

> Perhaps you came at it from a weaker frame, seeking her approval (how does this look? do you like it? etc) rather than just doing it and then forgetting about it.

Not really. I just had not shaved that day at which point she was complaining about the itching. Truth to be told, I hate to walk around unshaved myself.

And I use a moisturizer that actually accentuates the smooth texture of shaved skin (one of the few that don't trigger rashes/acne in me and I definitely need it otherwise my skin is way to dry)...

You're description sounds somewhat familiar. But I'm not sure if one truly can have too much education. You can overanalyze (which is somewhat orthogonal to education anyhow) but in most cases, more education is strictly better than less.

A girl said...

Nope. Clean shaven is better. It looks better, and I must ask: has your face ever rubbed against a man with stubble? I didn't think so. It hurts and it causes dry skin.

Perhaps a woman's unshaven legs are nature's way of telling her that men are actually attracted to this...

As I used to tell my boyfriend, if I have to shave my legs, you have to shave your beard. Period.

Interested Bystander said...

The girl is damn right.

While we're at it, guys should shave arm pits, too (if for no other reason than making it easier for the deodorant to do its job). Other parts of the body are subject to negotiation :P

Anonymous said...

I have had more success with a beard than with stubble or the clean shave. I have no deficiencies to hide yet my charm is at its height with the beard. This can be tested and should be.

TGGP said...

One thing that seems odd to me is how few politicians have facial hair now compared to say, the 19th century. I remember watching Bloggingheads.tv one time and thinking "None of these wonks could make it in politics because they've got beards".